Another Repower Option?

TonyNJ · Post by **TonyNJ** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:57 pm

Hope to see these at the boat shows. I'll post more info if I get any. http://www.kent.net/amp/ If the link won't work it's Advanced Marine Propulsion Ltd. Tony

franklyprice · Post by **franklyprice** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:15 pm

Tony, Pretty impressive numbers, if they can be believed. I would guess they're using a marinized dodge truck engine. The guestion I have for them is, if it isn't particularly fuel efficient in the dodge truck, then why is it a whole bunch more efficient than a big block chevy in a boat? I'll give them a call and see what they have to say. Frank Price

photo finish · Post by **photo finish** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:33 am

cool, other options are always fun to investigate does anyone know anything about the marine power engine.also there was a diesel engine at the ft lauderdale boat show i saw that was much cheaper than the norm i cant remember the name since i really wasnt in the market for diesel. what is the cost? can you only get it in canada eh? Tim Stamm Photo Finish 1981 33' Bertram FBC

Post by **dougl33** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:30 am

I also find it hard to believe that they're getting 34 knots out of that old Chris Craft. I'll bet that boat would hardly do 23 knots when it was brand new. Regards, Doug L. 1986 33 Bertram FBC Queen Elizabeth

Post by **Admin** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:32 am

Hmm, I general, I am a bit of a skeptic on most everything. This would definitely fall into that category. However, if it can be believed, the sweet spot of 2800-3000 RPMs at a speed of 24-26 Knots with the fuel consumption being better than 1:1 would be incredible. This test vessel is close to our boat's weight. Something to keep our eyes on I suppose (those of us running gas that is). David Sumich Bertram33.com Forum Administrator P.S. - I added it to the Links section, just in case.

Razzmatazz · Post by **Razzmatazz** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:18 am

I tend to agree with Frank....if its the same V-10 that was in dodge pickups they use a "ton" of fuel...lots of power, but use more fuel than 454's........i would be very surprised to see it get that kind of fuel figures...the power part I believe... Bill

photo finish · Post by **photo finish** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:18 pm

does that thing have a hemi? Tim Stamm Photo Finish 1981 33' Bertram FBC

Post by **dougl33** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:56 pm

Good one. 1986 33 Bertram FBC Queen Elizabeth

franklyprice · Post by **franklyprice** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:50 am

Well guys, I talked to the V-10 guy yesterday. I could not get him off the phone! Luckily he had returned my call so it was his dime.Well even after 45 minutes of talking I still am unconvinced of his claims. It is , as I thought, a dodge truck engine and he believes that the reason they didn't get better gas mileage in the trucks was because Dodge didn't take advantage of the torgue of these engines by using better rear end ratios. I hope he does ,in fact know more than the Chrysler engineers but I suspect that he hasn't actually found a way to overcome the laws of physics and it still does, indeed take a certain amount of energy to do a certain amount of work, all other things being equal. However I do hope that someone here will give them a try so we can all see for real how well they work. Oh, one more thing, they cost about $26,000 each but the price includes gears and help with the install. Doug? I think these would be sweet in the Queen.I'll even help you turn wrenches. Frank Price

Post by **dougl33** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:09 am

At $26K a piece, I think I'd go with Cummins or Yannies. Thanks anyway. Have you filled out that app yet? Big doings down the club today. Its election day! Regards, Doug L. 1986 33 Bertram FBC Queen Elizabeth

Post by **Admin** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:18 am

I'm not sure how $26K stacks up against some of the other gas options, but if it is a significantly higher price tag, than logic suggests that either they have a leg to stand on, or they are smoking zee old crack. I'm with Frank, I hope someone here or at least with a similar boat tries them out. I think maybe I will Google this topic over the next few months to see if there is any other feedback out there. David Sumich Bertram33.com Forum Administrator

franklyprice · Post by **franklyprice** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:11 pm

Two more things I forgot to mention about the V-10's.Evidently someone is planning to repower a couple boats in the spring with these things and one of the boats is a Bertram 30,according to the guy I talked to. I'm not sure we'll hear anything about the results of this but at least the hull will be similar to ours and should be a good indication of the potential(or lack thereof) of these engines. The other thing he mentioned was that the exhaust manifolds were cast aluminum and raw water cooled. He went into great detail about the preparation and anodizing to make them last and, frankly they may last as long as iron with salt water in them but for that kind of cake you would expect fresh water cooled manifolds. Doug, I can't down load those apps., is there some other way you could send them? How did the elections go? Do we get to call you by Sir or anything like that? President Doug? Frank Price

Post by **dougl33** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 3:25 pm

Give me your address and I'll snail mail them to you. No, you don't need to address me as sir or Mr. Commodore. I would never run for office. The guys who wind up being officers spend so much time doing the job that it takes away from their boating. Regards, Doug L. 1986 33 Bertram FBC Queen Elizabeth

TonyNJ · Post by **TonyNJ** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:55 am

Frank, That 26K wouldn't happen to be in Canadian money would it? Tony

franklyprice · Post by **franklyprice** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:01 pm

Tony, I don't think so. Even at that, I'm not interested, at least until I see results on more boats. Frank Price