Diesel Repower

JohnD · Post by **JohnD** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:22 am

Tim, Nice Job on your interior. I like the way the floor turned out. I've thought of doing mine in Brazillian Cherry, I've a box plus left from doing the house and like the grain variation, best of all is the stuff very hard and doesnt ding or dent. John D "Lady D" Bertram 35 Pasadena MD

inspector · Post by **inspector** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:42 am

John, make sure the "brazilian cherry" is dimensional stable, meaning that the expansion across the grain is not too great with the variation in humidity that a boat is sure to undergo. Shouldn't be too much of a problem if the "cherry" is a veneer over plywood(which would be stable) but if it is solid, better make sure whatever the actual species is, it is reasonably stable for the situation. See if you can find out what the species is - "brazilian cherry" is a trade name. Tim's sole does look real nice. Rich '77 fbc "Swinging Lizzy"

photo finish · Post by **photo finish** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:02 am

Frank, The cabin aft bulkhead wall was replaced by the previous owner and is a veneer over plywood. I am not on the boat right now but if i remember right the windows on my boatinstall from the outside so they probably just removed them and replaced them.As far as the cabinets over the starboard engine.My engine hatches are split in two length wise so to service the engine i can lift up the inner half if needed.The outer half is under the cabinets and can not be removed unless i remove the cabinet.I do not find this to be a problem unless i would need to remove the engine which in that case the cabinet is just a few screws from removal.It was a hassel to fill the oil but was doable but i just installed a oil fill pump to solve that problem. John I think Brazillian cherry is beautiful and would look great!

photo finish · Post by **photo finish** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:04 am

Thanks all for your kind words, I really like the dark wood cabin look and feel in the boat.

IRGuy · Post by **IRGuy** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:44 am

Thanks Tim.. Your interior looks great! Exactly what I aspire to! Great job! Re: The stbd engine hatch. As of this point in time my engine hatches are split athwartships. If I need to gain engine access I have to carefully slide both fore and aft pieces under the cabinet.. not easy and risky because it is possible to drop one onto the engine, and as you know they are large and heavy. I plan on changing the setup somehow. The port side is no problem as I have no built in seats, setees, or anything else in the salon. I am however uncomfortable about having to remove the stbd cabinetry unless it was designed to be moved without too much hassle. Any chance on getting a pic looking at the inboard face of the cabinetry? Also.. your counter top. I assume this is a solid surface man made material? Frank B - IRGuy@aol.com "Phoenix" 1983 FBC Wilmington, NC

JohnD · Post by **JohnD** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:39 pm

Rich, Thanks for the insight, I'll look into the dimensional stability. The stuff I have is solid cherry, I want to say it's 3/4 in but don't remember it's been 4years since I put it down in the house. That's a project for another day and I verywell may go with the teak/holly ply when I do something just to make it easier to install. John D "Lady D" Bertram 35 Pasadena MD

photo finish · Post by **photo finish** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:08 pm

Frank, Your hatch cover then is split opposite of mine.That would make it more difficult. Maybe you could split them again and have a 4 piece hatch.My cabinets came out pretty easy other then a couple of stripped screw heads.If you look at my first picture you can see where the cabinets were attatched. screws attatched to the wood mounting strips attatched to the sole and screws at the top edge and srews at the fore and aft bulkhead.The top was screwed from under the cabinets to the cabinets . I just had the original top which is made of some wood byproduct resurfaced with a marble looking formica that looks like a solid surface....I thought it would be much less weight that way.There is a picture on the slide show page i think it is third from last that shows a bit of the face along with the top ...is that what you meant by inboard face?

Terry Ray · Post by **Terry Ray** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:32 pm

Ken, Look at my previous note were I explained that I made a mistake when I stated that the boat was a FBC, it is in fact a Sportfisher. Best Regards Terry Ray Port Isabel, TX 1981 33'FBC "Little Dog" .

Brian Davin · Post by **Brian Davin** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:41 am

Terry, Welcome and best of luck in the refit, sounds like you have the help and experience to make it happen. I repowered last year with the Yanmar 370's and am very happy with them. In addition to the Little Dog pictures, be sure to include one of the Big Dog! Brian '90 Bertram 33' FBC Never Say Never Guilford, CT (Homeport) Kinnelon, NJ (Home)

Terry Ray · Post by **Terry Ray** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:26 pm

Brian, Thanks, today both engines came out followed by the genny and the fuel tank, this week will be spent on interior cleaning of the hull interior and removal of old cables and exterior hardware. Git Er Done Terry Ray Port Isabel, TX 1981 33'FBC "Little Dog" .

IRGuy · Post by **IRGuy** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:21 pm

Terry... In a way I am jealous.. "Phoenix" did not need a repower but almost all the systems were in need of renovation/repair/upgrade. (Never EVER buy a boat from a farmer!!!!). The good news was that not needing a repower I did not have to tear everything apart, the bad news was that I won't ever be able to get access to all the hull interior surfaces to clean and paint them. In a way I wish I had a nice clean painted bilge, but I really could not afford to tear her apart and start over as you are doing. Maybe next time? I suspect all of us here are following your project with a mixture of admiration and awe! Good luck, and please take some pics. The site's pic posting function is not working at the moment, but I imagine it will get straightened out eventually, and pics are a great source of info (and motivation) for the rest of us! Frank B - IRGuy@aol.com "Phoenix" 1983 FBC Wilmington, NC

Capt. Ed · Post by **Capt. Ed** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:29 am

Howdy Terry Ray, Welcome aboard and glad your here. Frank Price is the man to ask about some of the refinishing projects here also. Ya'll be sure to post some photos real soon now.

CB35 · Post by **CB35** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:17 am

I would take a look at the Nanni if I were looking for new repower. Charlie

Post by **dougl33** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:31 am

What the hell is a Nanni? Regards, Doug L. 1986 33 Bertram FBC Queen Elizabeth Marblehead, MA [img]http://www.bertram33.com/photogallery/p ... sabeth.jpg[/img]

IRGuy · Post by **IRGuy** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:38 am

Terry... If you consider the Nanni or any other diesel than the Cummins/Yanmar I would contact Bruce on the Bertram 31 forum. He is based in FL and seems to be very familiar with most engine mfgrs. He has posted some recent comments on the Nannis. As someone said above.. it is best to install an engine that you can have serviced locally from someone you trust.. Not always an easy order, but when you need help, you don't want to be all alone with nobody local to go to. While I don't have anything negative to say about the Yanmars (other than my probably unfounded bias that an engine that runs slower will give longer life than an engine that runs faster) I would look seriously at tha Cummins remanufactured engines. The price is probably the lowest you can find, the warrantees are the same as with new engines, and they are well understood by established Cummins techs. If this is an option for you I can speak with my local Cummins guy, who has already sold a set of 330s to another regular here. Frank B - IRGuy@aol.com "Phoenix" 1983 FBC Wilmington, NC